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« on: March 07, 2005, 06:42:58 PM »

Hi, sorry for the weird subject line but it really does feel as if I just woke up from a state of hibernation and my hosting world has turned upside down  Tongue

I've been a customer for a few years, since the VO days and although I've been aware of the all the changes, I've been so focused on other aspects of my business that I figured if stuff worked, I'd worry about the details later. I guess now is late enough!

First off, in spite of my not being a big fan of mergers and acquisitions, I must applaud the total transparency and seamless transition. Compared to other experiences with other hosting providers, this has been really nice. Nothing has noticeably changed as far as my reseller package (BR3000) is concerned but I do feel like I'm a little lost and I'm having trouble finding my way around....

For example, should I keep posting here or is data393 still in the picture? I'm still being billed for BR3000 although that package no longer exists on webhsp... Has it just been renamed and can I expect my reseller rate to go up at some point in the near future? ...and what is this Fantastico De Luxe business? It sounds interesting but is that something I need to request or pay extra for? Any pointers in the right direction to the answers are appreciated.

That's about it for now... Not much traffic in these forums... Either everything is running so well, nobody has anything to complain about or there's nobody left to complain now that the dust seems to have settled  :unsure: - I sure hope it's the latter!  :lol:

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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2005, 08:25:09 PM »

Hi xylus,

Lets see if I can address all of your questions:

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For example, should I keep posting here or is data393 still in the picture?

Yes and No. : :blink:
Yes, they are in the picture, but only in the background. For example, they are managing the servers and doing some Tier2 work for us.  It's been great because they are familiar with our configuration.  However, they are out of the picture from a customer standpoint, e.g. they no longer provide direct support to you nor do they make business decisions, that's our job. We're hoping this forum will become much more active and you'll be able to get all the fun and excitement you need from our forums.  However, you are welcome to continue to use Data393 forums I believe, but they won't be able to give you any provider level answers, those will need to come from us.

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I'm still being billed for BR3000 although that package no longer exists on webhsp... Has it just been renamed and can I expect my reseller rate to go up at some point in the near future?

You will continue to be billed at your current rate for your BR account.  Although Web HSP does not offer the BR accounts, customers who have them will be grandfathered.  Web HSP feels our VPSes are now more cost effective than they used to be and a much better tool for resellers. They provide better privacy and more control for their accounts and get a full cPanel license, not just reseller permissions. This allows for more flexibility in what you offer your customers.  The down side for some and up side for others,  is that there is a bit of server management that goes along with it. Although ours are managed servers, we keep the kernels updated and the OS updated, there is the cPanel updates and services that a reseller needs to manage.  Although those tasks are fairly easy with the WHM, it's a responsibility not all resellers want to take.  The down side to a BR is that you are totally impacted if other resellers sites cause problems on the server.  So you'll have more performance issues on a BR than on a VPS. (I know, this is not your question...I'll get off my bandwagon now) Wink .

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...and what is this Fantastico De Luxe business? It sounds interesting but is that something I need to request or pay extra for?

Fantastico DeLuxe is basically a script installer. It's really nice, but customers still need to take responsibility for keeping their scripts updated...otherwise they can become compromised.  The script installer makes keeping the scripts up to date easy through the cpanel.  

We are not currently adding Fantastico to any of the old servers until we've evaluated capacity and performance.  Once we update the servers and are comfortable they can handle additional scripts without impacting performance, we will most likely add Fantastico to the shared servers.

We are not sure what we are going to do on the BR servers regarding Fantastico.  We will most likely get our BR resellers to help us make that decision.  Because it will increase the demand on the server, we will need to cut back on the number of accounts per server even more than we are already going to do for performance reasons. This will reduce our income per server, so we may offer it for a monthly fee to BR resellers in order to keep quality performance without going into the red.  This is an issue we've thought of but haven't really discussed much. So, BR resellers should be thinking about this and we'll open up a dialogue when we're at the point we need to consider this.

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Not much traffic in these forums... Either everything is running so well, nobody has anything to complain about or there's nobody left to complain now that the dust seems to have settled  - I sure hope it's the latter! 

Yes, the forums are not too active, but I know folks are reading them because a lot of inquiries refer to information they've received from the forums.  So, keep the questions coming and I'm sure the community will pick up as we continue to grow.  Although we've had some run off, nothing more than is expected in a change like this.  As far as running smoothly, it's all relevant I guess.  The number of tickets are quite a bit lower than we expected, but some of the tickets have been difficult to resolve. Nothing out of the norm probably.   We also have the typical cPanel update issues....if only cPanel provided release notes, it would help us communicate impacts. (That's one thing I really like about Plesk...they have awesome release notes).  Anyway, another soap box of mine...I'll get off of it now  :rolleyes: .

Let us know if you have more questions.

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2006, 08:14:23 PM »

Well,  I think I just woke up from hibernation, too!

I am also paying for BR3000, but since purchasing this, I transitioned to teaching public high school math which has and is still one hurdle after another, that and all the hurricanes last year.

Currently, I only use a small amount of the disk space for which I am paying.  How do I allocate more space to my website?  Actually, I would like to set the limit at the max for which I am paying.  I need to do major upgrades to my (vbulletin)forum software, so I will need backup space, etc.  

I am paying for that, but I don't seem to be able to change the limits myself.  In the past, I requested the support desk to do it, and they did.

Please help me.  I don't have a lot of time this summer to figure all this out.

Thanks,

Ann B.
http://www.landspro.com/forums

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Hi xylus,

Lets see if I can address all of your questions:
Yes and No. : :blink:
Yes, they are in the picture, but only in the background. For example, they are managing the servers and doing some Tier2 work for us.  It's been great because they are familiar with our configuration.  However, they are out of the picture from a customer standpoint, e.g. they no longer provide direct support to you nor do they make business decisions, that's our job. We're hoping this forum will become much more active and you'll be able to get all the fun and excitement you need from our forums.  However, you are welcome to continue to use Data393 forums I believe, but they won't be able to give you any provider level answers, those will need to come from us.
You will continue to be billed at your current rate for your BR account.  Although Web HSP does not offer the BR accounts, customers who have them will be grandfathered.  Web HSP feels our VPSes are now more cost effective than they used to be and a much better tool for resellers. They provide better privacy and more control for their accounts and get a full cPanel license, not just reseller permissions. This allows for more flexibility in what you offer your customers.  The down side for some and up side for others,  is that there is a bit of server management that goes along with it. Although ours are managed servers, we keep the kernels updated and the OS updated, there is the cPanel updates and services that a reseller needs to manage.  Although those tasks are fairly easy with the WHM, it's a responsibility not all resellers want to take.  The down side to a BR is that you are totally impacted if other resellers sites cause problems on the server.  So you'll have more performance issues on a BR than on a VPS. (I know, this is not your question...I'll get off my bandwagon now) Wink .
Fantastico DeLuxe is basically a script installer. It's really nice, but customers still need to take responsibility for keeping their scripts updated...otherwise they can become compromised.  The script installer makes keeping the scripts up to date easy through the cpanel. 

We are not currently adding Fantastico to any of the old servers until we've evaluated capacity and performance.  Once we update the servers and are comfortable they can handle additional scripts without impacting performance, we will most likely add Fantastico to the shared servers.

We are not sure what we are going to do on the BR servers regarding Fantastico.  We will most likely get our BR resellers to help us make that decision.  Because it will increase the demand on the server, we will need to cut back on the number of accounts per server even more than we are already going to do for performance reasons. This will reduce our income per server, so we may offer it for a monthly fee to BR resellers in order to keep quality performance without going into the red.  This is an issue we've thought of but haven't really discussed much. So, BR resellers should be thinking about this and we'll open up a dialogue when we're at the point we need to consider this.
Yes, the forums are not too active, but I know folks are reading them because a lot of inquiries refer to information they've received from the forums.  So, keep the questions coming and I'm sure the community will pick up as we continue to grow.  Although we've had some run off, nothing more than is expected in a change like this.  As far as running smoothly, it's all relevant I guess.  The number of tickets are quite a bit lower than we expected, but some of the tickets have been difficult to resolve. Nothing out of the norm probably.   We also have the typical cPanel update issues....if only cPanel provided release notes, it would help us communicate impacts. (That's one thing I really like about Plesk...they have awesome release notes).  Anyway, another soap box of mine...I'll get off of it now  :rolleyes: .

Let us know if you have more questions.

Pat Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2006, 09:25:39 AM »

Hi Ann,

You can change your quotas for your account through your Webhost Manager (WHM) login.  You can log into WHM through http://landspro.com/whm/ using the same username and password as for your cpanel for that account.  

I think once you get in you should be able to figure it out fairly quickly, but if not we do have tutorials for WHM under our support section of the website.  Just click on Flash Tutorials and it will be listed in the left menu bar under WebHostManager - Xskin.

If you need assistance more quickly, our technicians will be happy to help. Just give them the domain name and ask for them to set your quotas for the account to the maximum for the BR.  You can open a ticket through the Customer Control Center, email support @ webhsp.com or call them (phone number is listed under the contact us page of our web site (top nav of all pages).  

Good luck and have a Happy Independence Day!!!

Sincerely,

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